Natalie and her trance medium guides called Claude, George, Elsie and Mael. Lecture 021.

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Natalie's guides, Claude, George, Elsie and Mael.

Me, Good evening!

Spirit, Good evening!

Me, Who’s first!

Spirit, Claude.

Me, Well done Claude.

Claude, I was going to let four lecturers through tonight, but I am not sure about it yet.

Me, Well, the decision’s yours.

Claude, I’ll do the usual three and we will see about the fourth when they come through.

Me, Okay!

Spirit, Terence!

Me, Good evening George.

George, Well you said you were going to get told off.

Me, I had this foreboding thought all day.

George, Well, I’m pleased to see that you have made the first step.

Me, Good!

George, And don’t be discouraged about your lack of any response, quite yet. You have just started to put the effort in and it will extend to all of you that effort, how much of your soul you put into something. I’m using common terminology, not my personal belief in the matter. How much of you, you put into something, how much effort, how much time even dedication, now you may not win in the end, but you’ll certainly get noticed.

That’s why those people the little people that get noticed are the ones that put everything into their work. Even those hideous paintings, they mistakenly call them in my opinion abstract things. They may look like they could be done by a two year old child, but they do actually put effort in’ em, and that’s why people are impressed by them, it comes out. That’s what’ll grab people. So the more effort you’ll put in something the more likely it is to be noticed and accepted, no matter how abominably it turns out.

Me, All right, I’ll put more in.

George, I could see you bracing yourself for something. Well I can’t be here just to give you a kick up the bum can I. I can give you a bit of encouragement.

Me, I don’t mind because sometimes I need it.

George, More than sometimes, you’re a dreadfully lazy person sometimes.

Me, Yes!

George, You all are actually. There’s a lot more that you all could be doing and you all know that you are putting it off. The only thing that I want to know is, why! Is there a reason for putting it off?

Me, I suppose it depends on a person’s attitude at the time. In other words, for me, last night I spent five hours for you George, working. Five hours George, give me a break.

(Laughter all round).

George, I commend you for that part of it, but that was only last night, out of how many nights in the week.

Me, Alright, okay, fine.

(Laughter all around).

George, A lot of the time you have to, all of you force yourselves to do things.

Me, Now I’ve got it.

George, You’ll find those first few steps will be like walking through a very sticky porridge. But once you get going you might actually even enjoy it. You get engrossed in it, the task will draw you in and once you do it you’ll get an enormous satisfaction, particularly when it is completed. You’ll look back on it and you can see your effort and those first few steps will not seem all that significant anymore. You may have wanted to watch television or movies, but you will be pleased that you actually did it in the end.

Me, I know that you’re right. It is just putting the effort in. But we’ve started.

George, Yes, I’m very pleased with that, we all are. We need more people here.

Me, The advert is in the paper. We have had one call and I will see the lady on Wednesday, that if she turns up.

George, Well, it was probably worth it for that one call, even the expression of interest if she doesn’t follow it through.

Me, We’ll just have to wait and see.

George, Other things were down there, but it’s a beginning.

Me, Perseverance! That’s what it’s called plus money.

George, Some things don’t cost, but those will occur to you over time as they can’t be handed to you. Though we’d like to as it would speed the process up immensely, but you can’t learn if things are handed to you all the time. 

Me, I totally agree on that one.

George, So, that one’s up to you. The figuring out the less expensive means that, are out there.

Me, We’ll see.

George, Yes, you will.

Me, Thank you.

Elsie, Good evening!

Me, Good evening Elsie.

Elsie, I’ve been watching from this lovely lofty spiritual plane how things have been progressing on this Earthly planet ever since I died. And it’s quite an interesting thing to watch how people seem to be completely different over the history of how we change and how we don’t. I mean we start out as howling barbarians and we still are howling barbarians except we do it in a completely different manner. But there are some things that really show up aside from that violent nature, and that’s our favourite thing and that’s love. It changes its forms. It changes its ceremonies.

I mean, years and years ago, having a divorce would be a rather scandalous thing. A very surprising and pretty extreme and now every second person gets one. And I don’t think that has to do with love, because, you’re love is endless, it doesn’t stop when you divorce a person. I mean some people never loved in the first place, they thought they did and it’s very confusing. Because there are so many form’s of love that they often get crossed and mistaken for each other. Like the love of your friends and the love of your husband or wife. Yes, your husband or wife is your friend as well, but some people mistake, particularly between boy’s and girls. If a girl is a friend with a boy, they often think it must be a husband wife type of love and it’s not. Friends don’t work like that and that’s what ends in divorce.

I think a lot of people are rushing into marriage as a little novelty now. And all though it’s just a silly little ceremony, it has meaning. You’ve made it have meaning and over the years you’ve come to respect that. But people loosing patience. Two very typical spiritual, themes, aren’t they, love and patience.

But basically what I’m saying is that love is a wonderful thing but, be very cautious with it, because expressed in the wrong manner or misunderstood it can make to all manner of all complications.

You can end up in this rather horrible thing I think called divorce, I mean what it does to families and children and people involved in it. I mean there’s always going to be a looser somewhere in there. It can also end in fights and it can hurt other people, people that you, perhaps never considered.

It can be just as dangerous as hate. It’s a very volatile emotion and it goes together very well with hate unfortunately. Because if somebody you loved, betrays you it can turn into hate very quickly. That’s the problem with opposites. You do that a lot.

So, be careful, we need more love in the world and we need a better understanding of it. To get more love in the world really, I mean those Zen Buddhist monk people understand it very well and there are several people out there who do. It is surprisingly a large amount, but, there is also a surprisingly a large amount who say they do, but don’t. So, listen to your intuition more than your head when it comes to love. Because you’re intuition is there to guide you. So, use it, it’s been given to you for a reason and a lot of people over look that. They forget it because it’s silly, it’s all tied in with silly ghosts and things like that, that apparently don’t exist. I can tell you on the very best authority that they do. I mean you can’t really get better than someone who actually, technically is. But trust yourself and watch your step.

Thank you.

Me, Thank you Elsie.

Spirit, Good evening.

Me, And good evening to you, and your name.

Spirit, It is Mael again.

Me, welcome Mael.

Mael, A lot of people worship idols on this Earthly plane such as kings and queens and artist’s of music and of the stage. But what we have become to forget is that we are all equal, we are all equally human. You are as significant, as the person on that stage. You are as significant as a president, as a king or queen, you are as important. But we have also forgotten you are as important as the blade of grass, as the field mouse, as the hunting lion, as the sand in the desert. It may feel very humbling, but it should make you feel proud that these things make up where we live is elements of the earth herself. We share their natural importance and their natural beauty. It is more en-heartening to be as important as the grass, than it is to be as important as the queen.

Thank you.

Me, And thank you Mael.

Claude, I’m not letting anyone else talk. Not because there is no ability too, there is just no one suited at the moment. I was slightly mistaken.

Me, You!

Claude, Of course me! I underestimated their strength and they drew back a little too far. But I have every confidence that they will step forward again.

It is surprising to think you may find that we can be just as frightened of you, as you as you are, well not you personally, but as people are of us.

Me, You surprise me!

Claude, Well, what we say is often not listened too. It does take a great deal of effort on several Spirit’s behalf to talk. It becomes more and more, easy as you do it. But when you first start off it’s a dreadful struggle and to have your words disregarded and you must remember this is one of very few tolerable circles where there is not quite so much pressure. It’s an experience that you may step back from in an almost a fear from it, a fear from almost being alive again. You don’t quite understand that, but you’ve never experienced it. It’s common misconception of people who have never experienced something and yet judge it.

Me, I know plenty who do that one.

Claude, Yes, we all do. We all do it. I mean to say, we’ve all done it in some point in time. They have all been proved completely wrong by it, more often than not. But getting some of the more timid Spirits forth to talk is sometimes quite a chore. They line up readily enough, but when it comes to it, they kind of loose their nerve.

I think that I shall leave it there tonight.

Me, Alright Claude and thank you very much.

Claude,  Thank you.    

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