Natalie and her trance medium guides called Claude,  Elsie, Zizzi and Asah. Lecture 033.

Open your window to the world of life after death.

Natalie's guides, Claude, Elsie, Zizzi and Asa.

Me, Good evening Claude.

Claude, Good evening.

Me, You look serious, what’s the problem.

Claude, Internal discussions!

Me, Well, you haven’t got George floating around so.

Claude, No, but there’s always somebody to take his place! Was there something that you wanted to ask me?

Me, Not yet!

Claude, I will do away with my usual introductions because everyone seems to have something to say and they all want to say it at once.

Me, Don’t run away, who have we got tonight.

Claude, We have in no particular order, Elsie, the young girl.

Me, From Japan or the little Jewish girl!

Claude, The little Jewish girl and we shall see.

Me, I’m going to ask you a question because if I ask the little Jewish girl I think that she is going to runaway. Is she from the concentration camps of W.W.II!

Claude, Yes.

Me, That was her last place on this Earth.

Claude, Oh yes and you’re quite correct you would have lost her.

Me, I thought I might. It’s easier to ask you. Thank you.

Elsie, Hello!

Me, Hello Elsie! Can I ask you a question?

Elsie, Yes. I knew you wanted to ask me so I decided to come first.

Me, Well done, well done. Last night I spent hours on the internet reading about the potato blight in Ireland between 1845 and 1851 and what happened to the Irish afterwards. Can you give me a brief synopsis of what happened to you because I’m so curious?

Elsie, We came over to America in a ship which is quite obvious because planes weren’t invented and we were poor so the conditions on the ship weren’t very pleasant, but it was a means to an end and it took a very long time, at least in your standards. It was very normal for us and very dangerous, a trip that long.

My father used to be a Thatcher in our village but in America they didn’t have thatched roofs, at least not very many of them. In Ireland some of them had shingles or slate so he knew how to split slate and cut stones so he became a Stonemason and my mother stayed at home. That was to be expected and my sister and myself went into service. When I was fairly young age didn’t really matter at that point in America as long as they had people that could do other jobs that they didn’t want to do. So we went into service for money to support our parents and ourselves.

Me, It really struck me as curious last night because you came into my mind and you stayed there for hours as I was looking at all what went on in America for the Irish and I thought I wonder what Elsie got up to.

Elsie, It was difficult because we were foreigners and not really looked on very kindly especially back then as they were very suspicious, they thought we were invading or something. They kept mistaking us for British which never went down very well.

Me, It wouldn’t have done.

Elsie, Oh, there were lots of fights.

Me, Have you any idea where you landed in America.

Elsie, Not really, as I was rather young. It was just big and new and completely different. It was sandy but not beach sand as there were rocks, where Ireland was green this place was very brown and not very grassy and I don’t know where that would be.

Me, Not to worry!

Elsie, I just know it was rather different and place names have changed a little. They move whole cities and it changes the whole landscape. But I believe it still looks pretty much the same, it’s fairly uninhabited.

Me, Thank you for that.

Elsie, My pleasure!

Me, Have you anything more to say.

Elsie, No, I think that I will leave it at questions.

Me, Would you like some more questions.

Elsie, If you’ve got questions then I don’t mind.

Me, I’ve got millions of them, but what about anybody else.

Doug, When did you land in America, can you remember the year.

Elsie, I don’t remember very much, but I remember being little. I was about three or four when I landed so I don’t remember details. I remember impressions, like initial impressions, like you do when you’re that little. Like I remember the landscape and I remember feeling; Oh no, what have we done, what have we left behind us, this is horrible. I though all of America was like that when I was first there. We travelled overland further up or down.

Doug, Where did you finish up.

Elsie, It was a wee village, but it’s gone now. It was on a hill. It was called Dartmoor which is after a village in Britton I believe, but they stole the name of the place. It was generally for foreigners. Back then they split up villages into generational distinctions if there was anything very different, like you have sections here, where you find many people from Asian countries. It was like that. Now British and Irish and Scottish are all now very amalgamated in the society, there are other races that do splinter off like that, but there weren’t very many Asians at all.

Me, Was your new village warmer.

Elsie, Oh, certainly it was very much warmer.

Me, So that would be where fruit was grown.

Elsie, Yes and also cotton.

Me, So that’s towards the south then.

Elsie, I think so. I’m not sure. But there was a little bit of fruit. Not tropical fruit but plums, there are plums. We had one tree in our village that was plums and also citrus fruit.

Me, Oranges and the like!

Elsie, Aye, and manderines which was very unusual and they were very well protected, they were unusual.

Me, Well done.

Elsie, Thank you.

Me, Is there anymore questions.

Andrea, What was the main lesson in your last life.

Elsie, Oh dear, there’s so many.

Andrea, Well, then the most prominent that comes to mind.

Elsie, Humility. I was brought up to be very proud of whom I was and where I came from and to this day American’s are also very proud of who they are and where they came from. They don’t really like it when you think that you come from somewhere better. I mean, I know now that saying my country is better than your country is a moot point, it doesn’t matter. But I had to learn that, that I didn’t have to stand out there and say well that’s what I think, I could just let them say, oh I’m better than you, were better than you, aren’t you better off here and I just nod my head and pretend I agreed and really not agree out loud. It wasn’t betraying what I really thought and that took a lot of time. Because I thought that I was being brave by saying no you’re wrong, I’m proud of who I am. I was but it was also completely un-necessary. It’s a strange thing about bravery, there are times when it’s un-necessary as you don’t have to do that and for point of pride it’s not worth the hassle, it’s not worth the danger you put yourself and your family in.

Me, Is there anybody else.

Lisa, Did you grow old enough to marry and have a family?

Elsie, I grew old enough to marry, but I never had a family. I was never really interested to be perfectly honest. It was very unusual, but I did look after children and I did love children but there was never a sense of loss at never marrying. I just accepted that was the way it was. The men from our village I thought were all louts and I let them know what I thought and people respected that. I did grow old enough for the children in the village to call me grandmother, because I did lots of nice things for children. I made them pies and treats and spoilt them all. I didn’t have my own children because every child I saw was my own child and I could give them back when they were being right little horrors.

Lisa, What about your sister, did she settle down?

Elsie, Aye she did. She had three children, she did have four but one died very shortly after birth. They were my nieces and nephew and I spoilt them like all the others. There’s not much to say about her really, she became a homemaker after she married because she stayed in the service for a little while after that.

Me, Anymore questions.

Doug, Who did you work for when you were in service?

Elsie, Aye, I worked mainly for the lady of the house and her name was Rosanna. I will not give there last name. They owned a Manor house and I don’t know what they did but they owned properties, I don’t know what they did with them as that was not part of my concern, but they didn’t in my opinion work for a living. But she was a nice lady. She was very lonely, a lot of them were, they’d have their lady friends over, but they would talk often to the maids about trivial things. The gossip we used to pick up about what she really thought was quite interesting. Ladies of that era weren’t as proper you might have thought. Not in their private rooms and surrounded by other ladies.

Me, They haven’t changed.

Elsie, Aye I know and they never will.

Me, The family of the Manor are still alive, yes or no!

Elsie, Yes, but obviously their ancestors and not the actual family. A lot of my village did grow old where the people of the Manor house died earlier. Quite a number of us thought that was a little strange. As much as their money could buy they were never happy or they didn’t live very long.

Me, It is to do with being spoilt and not eating properly.

Elsie, I know, they didn’t it was all the rich foods. The cook used to chase us out of the kitchen when we were brave enough to sneak in there and steal something. It was a game, they were never serious.

Me, It’s nice to know that your life wasn’t that bad.

Elsie, No it wasn’t. There were bad moments, there were quite a few but I tried to ignore that they even existed.

Me, Have you anything more to say.

Elsie, Not tonight!

Me, Alright then! You have done very well tonight and I thank you for that.

Elsie, Thank you!

The next Spirit who wanted to talk was the little Jewish girl who died in W.W.II in a concentration camp at the age of about eight years old. Therefore where she is concerned I tread very carefully as I do not want to frighten her away.

Spirit, Good evening!

Me, Good evening to you.

Spirit, I wanted to ask about why is the section of land that you live in so important. Elsie talked about how her country and the other country weren’t important when you are over the other side, but they shouldn’t be important now. Because if you think about it really hard, there aren’t any countries because there’s bits of land that stick up out of the sea, but there all one bit of land they’ve just got big rivers. There aren’t any country boundaries, there just lines on a map like a drawing. It doesn’t really matter what the name on the map say’s or where the line is because the land doesn’t care, the land stays the same even if you draw the line in a different place.

So it’s a bit funny that you don’t like people that live on the other side of the pretend line because it is not really there.

Me, That’s a unique way of putting it.

Spirit, Thank you.

Me, You’re welcome, but before you go can I have your name. Now don’t worry you will be fine.

Spirit, You couldn’t say it.

Me, I can’t call you the little Jewish girl can I.

Spirit, I can’t write it as I can’t write. Can you write it.

Me, I’ll try, can you spell it.

Spirit, I can spell it.

Me, It is important to have your name, it really is.

Spirit, If you want a name that you can just call me instead of just my proper name you can call me Zizzy.

Me, That will do is that with a z-i-z-z-y.

Spirit, It’s got an “x” in it and an “I”. It’s spelt Zixi. It doesn’t work in English.

Me, I understand that, so Zixi is pronounced as Zizzy.

Zizzy, Yes. Like there are two “z” and not one.

Me, We’ve got it and thank you Zizzy. Is there anymore!

Zizzy, No, not tonight.

Me, Thank you very much.

Spirit, Good evening. I am new here.

Me, You’re new and what is your name.

Spirit, Asa.

Me, Can you spell that?

Asah, In your lettering it is ASA and is pronounced as Asah.

Me, Thank you.

Asah, I will bring to your attention that there are in this world, in this Earth plane very many places where Spirit and the Earth plane are very close. They are all in regions where the paranormal is quite active in certain places in the British Isles, in South America, around certain areas of Germany in Norway and in Egypt. It is areas where the vibrations are a lot higher. You step into them and you are part of them, your own vibrations are lifted, these are created deliberately.

Many years ago before the beliefs of man ignored them and tried to debate their existence. It would be well if you could visit these places, I can understand that one may not possess the facilities, but it would be an enlightening experience.

That is all that I have to say.

Me, Before you go you have some sort of regal bearing, would I be right or wrong.

Asah, Yes.

Me, Now I am going over the line, male or female?

Asah, Female.

Me, I thought so. Once close to being a Priestess.

Asah, Yes. I was in service of Isis.

Me, Well done.

Asah, Thank you.

Me, Will you be coming back again?

Asah, Yes, I shall.

Me, I shall look forward to that one as you know. Many thanks.

Claude, I believe I will leave it there for now.

Me, So you may interrupt during the evening.

Claude, I may, I may. It’s always more fun when you can’t predict it.

Me, My word it is. I haven’t made up my mind about the rest of the evening yet.

Claude, Maybe we will make it for you. Maybe we will just leave it as a lovely challenge for you.

Me, That will be nice. Alright, thank you very much Claude.

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